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Post by Rilith on Dec 27, 2008 11:03:50 GMT
I am getting really reallt really concerned about Hollys Speech... Or complete lack of Now.. she understands everything you say. You say "Holly get the teddy out of the box and put it on the chair" she will do it. Ask her to choose the red block and put it in the green box... she knows what you are asking and will do it. Put 2 cereals in front of her and ask which one she wants and she will point to the one she wants for breakfast. Tell her to get her coat and shoes cus we are going out and she will fetch them.. So understanding language isn't her problem. Sign anything to her 3 times and she knows it. She can sign no end of nursery rhymes and songs... BUT !!!! She still will not make any attempt at speaking. She will babble, and will babble with intent, she is telling you in babble and having a good old conversation but there isn't actually any distinct words in there. I think its making it show up more now that Tara is 14 months and is saying 2 even 3 new words a DAY !! she will copy sounds, animal sounds, songs all sorts... But Holly even after 3 years of saying "What does a Moo Cow Say MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" she still hasn't made one attempt at saying Moo. The SALT team have done the assessments for the statement for her schooling and have had to report a significant delay in her speech. I need to know what your lil ones are saying or attempting to say. Holly is now 3 years old. What were your lil ones doing at this age, or even younger if they are attempting to talk. I can't see any reason for her to not be able to. She is quite bright really and picks things up easily. She is social and loves mingling with other people/children. I just don't get why she won't talk. We even tried stopping ALL the makaton, to try and force some speech, not giving her a drink until she says drink, but she will just walk off rather than get upset... Sorry for the HUGE essay, but it is something thats really bugging me
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Post by lisajg on Dec 27, 2008 17:38:02 GMT
Hi Rilith, Harry is quite similar - he understands loads, its clear from how he responds to me that he understands what i'm asking or saying but his speech is very limited. He is 4 yrs & 8 mths, he says a few words... drink, good (with a thumbs up mainly when he's congratulating himself on something he's done!), teddy and a few others. He has gone to speech & lang from a young age and will have sessions with other kids his age with ds & some of them have great speech, it really varies. I think the age range I have seen for our kiddies learning to speak is between around 3-7 yrs, sometimes i find it quite hard seeing the other kids Harry's age whose speech is much better than his, but I tell myself he will get there eventually. His muscle tone has always been very poor which i think is the main reason for his delay. Holly sounds like she's doing great with her signing & understanding things & its lovely that she's so sociable too, now she's at pre-school that will prob help to bring her speech along too xxx
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Post by lizzymd² on Dec 27, 2008 23:38:40 GMT
Pre school will defo be best thing for her. Is it additional support?? do they have onsite salt??
Have you heard of the hanen course?? You can get on it through salt. Google it for more info
Camerons speech is coming on well and I reckon its purely down to his nursery which is additional support.
The salt team taught the staff loads of stuff and they have daily routines where he has to communicate with everybody in room, by saying hello, bye bye and choosing what he wants to do
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Post by tracy108 on Dec 28, 2008 14:47:09 GMT
hi ..cory has very limited speech..he started of saying da da n ba ba etc then it just seem to go ..when we did have the dada bit i thought fantastic no speech probs but we do..like holly he can understand too much and can sign the best..he also babbles away to himself like he is having a full blown convo..i have bought puppets, dolls alsorts to encourage the speech but nothing..only prob now is that i understand the babble..lol..he can go to me ..er er er er er and i know wot he is on about...he has SALT at school every week and they say he is really trying and it will come.. i did ask santa for his words to come..i got...'uv yooo mum'(love you mum) i cried..so just hang on in there it will come...its coming here.. sorry if that was a load of rubble..but i did say i would be back after christmas with a load of nonsense..lol
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Post by max on Dec 28, 2008 16:17:12 GMT
It's difficult isn't it! Caleb is 2 and 4 months now and is saying some words - he makes great animal noises and signs them all too.
He says that, what, yes, cat, Ophelia (!! one of our cats) Daddy, Hiya, book, ball, blue, red (sometimes) fish and some other things. He's not very clear though but I can understand him. He likes to copy words but often doesn't repeat them again. I know he's doing really well and have been lucky that the SALT have loaded resources on him and now he is at nursery too. We are supposed to do the Hanan course soon but dunno when.
I'm sure Holly will get there in her own sweet time but it's extra difficult when you have a younger child to compare with them - I'm dreading when this new baby (when it's FINALLY BORN) over takes Caleb. Maybe Tara will inspire Holly eventually. Her understanding sounds amazing - much better than Caleb who ignores most of what I ask him....
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Post by Rilith on Dec 28, 2008 16:34:43 GMT
hi ..cory has very limited speech..he started of saying da da n ba ba etc then it just seem to go ..when we did have the dada bit i thought fantastic no speech probs but we do..like holly he can understand too much and can sign the best..he also babbles away to himself like he is having a full blown convo..i have bought puppets, dolls alsorts to encourage the speech but nothing..only prob now is that i understand the babble..lol..he can go to me ..er er er er er and i know wot he is on about...he has SALT at school every week and they say he is really trying and it will come.. i did ask santa for his words to come..i got...'uv yooo mum'(love you mum) i cried..so just hang on in there it will come...its coming here.. sorry if that was a load of rubble..but i did say i would be back after christmas with a load of nonsense..lol How old is Cory now??? We were the same when the babbling started, we too thought YEY Fab. I am just finding it reall frustrating at the moment. The SALT doesn't ever seem to have the time for Holly, never has done really, when we were in groups it was always the other kids progress that she worked on and never Hollys. Grrrrr
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Post by tracy108 on Dec 28, 2008 20:47:48 GMT
cory is 5 1/2... can you not change your speech therapist she doesnt sound to good...corys first one was no good i was even teaching him makaton...the one he has now is fab and on the floor with them not at a table...cory goes to a special school and the SALT are based there and are always at hand and she sends me homework to do with him at home.. i know wot you mean when you mention about youngsters being able to say more..i have a niece that is 3 and i can have a full convo on the phone and when we visit home cory does stand out with the speech..but hay thats cory and i know wot he means and poke the rest..lol...but i am waiting for the day when i can tell him to SHUT UP..lol
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Post by sarah on Jan 1, 2009 11:52:03 GMT
Daniel seems quite similar to Caleb - he repeats loads of words but at the moment doesnt always use them again, but has has loads of words that only we would understand and have to say 'thats his word for...' which he uses quite consistently. He uses quite a few inital and final sounds for things which is usually accompanied by the sign so we understand. There are a few words that he can say clearly but can only say them with the sign! He's a real mixed bag when it comes to speech!! Although I can have a conversation with Daniel (and an arguement!) and he understands me (when he wants to!) other people probably couldnt and when I see other 2 and half year olds chatting away, I do worry about it... it will come...
Max - whats the Hanan course? xx
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Post by lizzymd² on Jan 2, 2009 23:15:14 GMT
“More than Words” Hanen Course
A Speech Language Therapist leads this programme which aims to empower parents in increasing their child’s communication skills. Content: The programme identifies strategies that are especially geared to the particular communication challenges. Parents will have a chance to practice the skills with a speech and language therapist at home visits. Topics covered include: • Increasing your child’s understanding of language • Increasing communication through routines, pictures, print, and play skills • Understanding behaviours • Increasing attention • Improving understanding of language • Helping children make friends will be also covered • Visual strategies • Books • Toys • Games with people, such as ‘tickle’
Hope this helps, I'm on the waiting list for a course
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Post by sarah on Jan 3, 2009 19:09:44 GMT
Thanks Lizzy - sounds very interesting. How do you get on a course and are they throughout the country? (sorry for the 20 questions!!) xx
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Post by sarah on Jan 3, 2009 19:21:41 GMT
Just googled it - I quite fancy popping over to Australia or the states for a course!! Does sound VERY interesting though - will put name down for waiting lists I think. Thanks for the info.
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Post by max on Jan 5, 2009 21:35:25 GMT
we didn't have to go on a waiting list? Must be less people who want to do it here! We've turned down the course that starts this month as we should shortly (please, due TOMORROW!!!) have a newborn baby. Caleb seems to be having a speech spurt at the mo, maybe his glue ear is clearing again now his cold has gone.
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Post by karenh on Jan 5, 2009 22:08:52 GMT
I was just thinking you must be due soon max hope all goes well for you and look forward to hearing your announcement xx
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Post by odiness on Jan 24, 2009 0:57:35 GMT
Hiya Ril and everyone. I'm so glad you posted this because it's something I think about all of the time. Jasmine is doing great in terms of physical development, she's 15 months now and I get a couple of recognisible names, mumum (yey me), dandad (grandad), a very occasional manma (grandma) and nernerner (no no no in a very cross voice). I've been wondering when Speech Therapy would kick in, everyone keeps telling me not until Jasmine is 2 but that just seems a little late, surely she needs the encouragement now. She is getting really frustrated with not being able to express what she wants as she doesn't point so I am getting really loud shouting and grunting all of the time accompanied by a scary face!
It's a little early for much on the signing front, we currently get milk, duck, fish and star, mainly to nursery rhymes.
I've started a new sign class and Hanen has been recommended to me as well so I'm definitely going to look into it.
Jasmine has her assessment with the child devlelopment centre soon so hopefully I'll get some advice from there.
In terms of Holly, it sounds as though she can communicate really well with you without the need for speech and maybe that's the problem. You probably instinctively know what she wants or help coax it from her. When she is in a different environment like pre-school she might find she has to make herself clearer in a different way and hopefully that will pursuade her to talk a little. Good luck hun. x
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