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Post by mashpotato on Jan 27, 2006 12:40:27 GMT
This is just a wondering about other peoples views thread
When i was at school there were no children with disabilities there and so i never got to experience this until saul was born. Theres a lot of things taught in schools such as how to change a fuse in a plug, but no-one tells us about different disabilities and we wonder why people make comments and jokes about disabled people. Its similar to being taught religious studies for 3yrs, i'm not religious, but i now know there are many religions and can sort of remember what they do. So should someone say i'm jewish or catholic, or whatever i can talk to them with out thinking i know nothing about your religion, and worrying i could say something offensive. if you see what i mean
My idea:
I intend to send Saul to a normal primary school, and children of that age have no judgement on disability so wouldn't it be a good idea from a young age to introduce it. Such as just show them a video and make a game out of them learning that disability ranges from needing a little extra help to being unable to do anything for yourself. Then i secondary school go into more detail so about how disabilties can occur, such as through birth, accident or illness etc. Then maybe a final lesson in the last years looking at the social side of it, how there is a lot of help for people with disability, that they can achieve the same as everyone. just so that when we come across disability we'd have that underlying knowledge, that will perhaps stop so many wrong and rude words being used because people don't understand and don't know what to say in that situation.
Asking your opinions do you think something like this would be of use?
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Post by Rilith on Jan 28, 2006 18:25:18 GMT
I think schools are trying to introduce more special needs anyway. Especially Promary schools. The school that my boys go to have already said that Holly can attend the Foundation class (the one in the mornings) and then depending on her needs she can continue in school or participate occasionally.
Children are non judgemental and i think it would be very good for them to be introduced to disabilities as a happy thing rather than a ewwww get away can I catch it thing. More often than not its the parents that need the education not the children.
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Post by Jojo on Jan 28, 2006 18:56:50 GMT
I totally agree with you Mash.
At my dd's school, they have a girl with Downs called Laura. She's 8 I think. She's attends full time as far as I'm aware...well I see her dad drop her off in the morning and picks her up when school ends. All the kids love her and she used to be in my eldests class. My daughter didn't know anything was different about her bless...just thought she was a bit slower than the other kids.....As I used Laura to her as an example of what Lisa would be similar to. Anyway, I think if there are no kids with special needs, well even if there is, it's a good idea to teach kids that there are all sorts of, religion, race and yes even special needs!! I think it would definatley improve the out look people have. I think a lot of people don't know how to react, and feel a little uncomfortable, not wanting to say the wrong thing.... I'm like it myself sometimes.....because it might be something I know nothing about.
Anyway.....speak soon girls!! xxx
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Post by Rilith on Jan 28, 2006 19:29:11 GMT
I'm one of those people that would rather say the wrong thing than nothing at all. And would rather people say the same to me Some of the mums don't come near me anymore... Its all cus they don't know what or how to say things. Silly moos...LOL
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Post by Daniella on Jan 31, 2006 14:51:14 GMT
sorry but i have 2 disagree in a way, we have to change the minds of the elders rather than the youngsters, seeing as it is the elders who shape the minds of their youngsters.
in another way, todays youngsters are tomorrows elders so it is good to get then taught about things like special needs seeing as ther are a lot more children out there with different special needs, not just downs, than there would have been years ago. years ago people were just advised to put their children into institutes, just for looking, acting or simply learning differently to 'normal' children
the only thing we have to keep open minded about is that there are a lot of children out there who have never been fortunate enough to know anyone with special needs so therefore are more likely to bully or tease children who are different
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Post by maxine on Feb 1, 2006 21:01:40 GMT
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Post by Daniella on Feb 2, 2006 10:56:48 GMT
you have made some really good points there maxine, good luck for friday
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Post by Rilith on Feb 2, 2006 22:48:59 GMT
Awwww That was really nice Maxine....
Good Luck Hunni XXXXXXXX
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Post by Jojo on Feb 12, 2006 9:53:12 GMT
Well said Maxine, how did the meeting go??
There are two nurseries in our area that lead striaght to the primary school I'd like Lisa to go to. (The same one as my older dd's.)
So, I would obviously like her to go to one of them two.
Judith, (my portage worker) assures me me they're both very good...And understanding towards Lisa's needs, though it is still a normal pre-school nursery.
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Post by lynn on Mar 1, 2006 16:43:36 GMT
hi, My daughter has been in mainstream school since she was 3 1/2.. she has always fitted in well, and what began with ignorance in some of her schools grew to a much bigger whole school understanding that children with disabilitys do actually exsist. My daughters infants actually had the whole school learning maketon and when she left they threw her a big party.
She is now in year 3 ( repeating a year as she should be in year 4) and although obviously not academically up with her peers, she takes part in class activities and does work at her own level but based on what the rest of her class is doing.
Many LEA's are now looking at making all Special educational needs inclusive as many feel that it causes more problems than it solves. However, I am not 100% sure that they should take the option away from parents. If I thought Charlotte was struglling at school, then I would hate to be told I didnt have the option of special school.
In Derby I was told however, that they are now activily encouraging all parents of children with SEN to think about main stream schooling as they are looking at closing the special schools here, like they have in Nottingham.
There are some interesting reports out on childrens attitudes to their peers that have SEN..I can find some links or post articles if people are interested as I am looking at something similar for my final year project this year at Uni.
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Post by Daniella on Mar 1, 2006 20:42:40 GMT
hi peeps. as you all know adam and i went to a conference today, they discussed school and stuff in one of the talks and they touched upon the subject of the SEN & disabilities act 2001 ( www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2001/20010010.htm )....it means that you have the right to decide whether your child goes to mainstream or special school and the school has not got the right to refuse..... but the factors to think about are Education within the community - with friends and or siblings typical developing peers as role models for speech, language and behavior changing cohort of needs in the special school
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